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rankispanki

First, does Nachtmahr translate to Nightmare?

As for my thoughts on the album... words can't really express it, if Rig and Toby were here right now I'd give them a hug, a really, really long one

At first I didn't think I'd really enjoy the album, since it's all sort of orchestral/classical instruments. But I was wrong, the album is amazing, I just can't seem to get it out of my stereo

Thank you Janus, once again, for delivering such a beautiful work of art. Here's to the next album, and the next, and the next, etc!

komatose

"Nachtmahr" is actually a person or thing that occurs in nightmares. In other words: "spooky figure in dreams".

SchwarzerWitwer

But i think it is derived from nightmare.
Even if its meaning slightly changed a bit.

rankispanki

Florian

i don't think so. "Mahr" is actually an old german word for "fairy tale" or "legend".

DerKleineSymphat

i also know "nachtmahr" as a direct translation for "alptraum" -> nightmare

and look at the words !

nacht-mahr ---- night-mare ;)

komatose

** SORRY, GERMAN **

Der DUDEN schreibt: Nacht|mahr (Spukgestalt im Traum)
Und auf

xipolis.net ist von einem "Nachtgespenst" die Rede.

** END OF GERMAN **

But maybe Rig himself can explain this a bit.

Florian

OK you convinced me, i was obviously wrong

So i ask myself why i ever had to learn the first verse of
the Nibelungenlied, as there is said

"Uns ist in alten Mären wunders viel geseit
..."

that was ofcourse easily leading me to my mistake,
because "Mären" could also easily be the Plural of "Mahr".

However, it is always difficult to analyse the history of words without being a real expert, as there are a lot of false friends always.

komatose

The DUDEN says: "Mär, Mä|re, die; -, Mären (veraltet, heute noch scherzh. für Kunde, Nachricht; Sage)".

I always look up words I don't know

sonnenkind

In the medieval german language of the 11th - 14th century [Mittelhochdeutsch], "nahtmare" ["h" spoken like the german "ch"] means "Alp". Asking the Duden, it tells that this is now spelled "Alb", what means an subterranian spirit, a spooky being and "Albdrücken". I'm not sure how to translate the last one, but I think, it means "nightmare" or "dreaming a nightmare" ...

rankispanki

hmmm, maybe Rig will swing by and clear things up... interesting topic though.